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Putin Laments Death of the Soviet Union

from the Guardian Unlimited

MOSCOW (AP) - President Vladimir Putin used a campaign speech Thursday to declare the demise of the Soviet Union a "national tragedy on an enormous scale,'' in what appeared to be his strongest-ever lament of the collapse of the Soviet empire.

Putin, a former agent of the Soviet KGB spy agency, has praised aspects of the Soviet Union in the past but never so robustly nor in such an important political setting.

"The breakup of the Soviet Union is a national tragedy on an enormous scale,'' from which "only the elites and nationalists of the republics gained,'' Putin said in a nationally televised speech to about 300 campaign workers gathered at Moscow State University.

The president's language was sure to send a chill through the 14 other former Soviet republics that have been independent from Moscow rule for more than a decade.

You may be wondering why this news story is under the "Arcanum" banner. Personally, I don't think we have a banner for such bone- chilling scary news like this. What we have here is the President of the Russian Federation, an ex- KGB agent, who has spent most of his administration silencing independent media outlets and lately, intimidating his fellow candidates, lamenting the death of the USSR. That's the Soviet Union people, remember them? You think Al- Qrappa and Osama are scary? Vladimir Putin is starting to rile up the latent nationalism in his countrymen's hearts. Russia was suddenly given democracy one day 14 years ago (cough-cough Iraq), and while they are technically a "democracy", all they have seen is robber barons swindling the country. As if the US did not have enough problems, imagine a Russia who blames us for screwing up their country after us. Oh, yeah, and WMDs? Russia has them in spades. Welcome to the 21st century!


Putin Laments Death of the Soviet Union

MOSCOW (AP) - President Vladimir Putin used a campaign speech Thursday to declare the demise of the Soviet Union a ``national tragedy on an enormous scale,'' in what appeared to be his strongest-ever lament of the collapse of the Soviet empire.

Putin, a former agent of the Soviet KGB spy agency, has praised aspects of the Soviet Union in the past but never so robustly nor in such an important political setting.

``The breakup of the Soviet Union is a national tragedy on an enormous scale,'' from which ``only the elites and nationalists of the republics gained,'' Putin said in a nationally televised speech to about 300 campaign workers gathered at Moscow State University.

The president's language was sure to send a chill through the 14 other former Soviet republics that have been independent from Moscow rule for more than a decade.

In the past and to audiences from the former republics, Putin has sought to ease fears about Russia having designs on rebuilding the old empire.

In September remarks after a meeting of the Commonwealth of Independent States - the grouping of former Soviet republics - Putin said:

``The Soviet Union (was) a very complicated page in the history of our people,'' adding ``that train has left.''

But on Thursday, he spoke in a much stronger tone, appearing to play to Russian nationalism.

``I think that ordinary citizens of the former Soviet Union and the post-Soviet space gained nothing from this. On the contrary, people have faced a huge number of problems,'' he said.

``Today we must look at the reality we live in. We cannot only look back and curse about this issue. We must look forward,'' he said.

Across town, meanwhile, Putin challengers in the election next month refused to debate among themselves in a television program called for that purpose. The candidates said a debate was meaningless without Putin, who says he doesn't need the free television advertising.

At the taping of what was to be the first debate ahead of the March 14 vote, four of Putin's six challengers answered questions from the studio audience, but then rejected the host's appeal that they debate each other.

``Bring Vladimir Putin here and we will have a debate,'' independent liberal candidate Irina Khakamada said, winning applause from the audience.

Calling it pointless to debate with anyone but Putin, ``my main competitor'', Communist candidate Nikolai Kharitonov said that by ignoring the debates, ``Putin is depriving the population of the right to choose.''

Also at the taping were candidates Sergei Glazyev of the populist-nationalist Homeland Party and Oleg Malyshkin of Vladimir Zhirinovsky's ultranationalist Liberal Democratic Party.

Regardless of Putin's public declarations about campaign advertising, state-controlled television channels already lavish him with extensive coverage - as on Thursday when state-run Rossiya showed his remarks live.

Addressing a packed auditorium at Moscow State University, Putin said: ``The head of state should not engage in self-advertising.''

``Nevertheless,'' he continued, ``I am simply obliged before my voters and the entire country to account for what has been done during the past four years, and to tell people what I intend to do during the next four years.''

Responding to a question after his state-of-the-nation-style speech, Putin said that the 1991 Soviet collapse - which most Russians regret - led to few gains and many problems for ordinary citizens.

Turning to global politics, Putin said that Russia must become a ``full-fledged member of the world community'' and assailed those in the West who still have a Cold War-era distrust of Russia. They ``can't get out of the freezer,'' he said.

Putin reiterated his stated opposition to prolonging his time in office, limited to two terms. But he indicated he would choose a preferred successor, saying that the task of any top leader ``is to propose to society a person he considers worthy to work further in this position.''

Some Putin opponents had considered boycotting the presidential election, saying a fair vote was impossible in Russia today, and the refusal to debate in Thursday's program reflected the candidates' anger at the president's dominance of the campaign.

Some political analysts said, however, the public does not expect Putin to debate.

``They see the head of state as a monarch who shouldn't participate in discussions with those below him in the hierarchy,'' said Andrei Ryabov of the Carnegie Institute in Moscow said.

The Organization for the Security and Cooperation in Europe said the state-controlled media's parliamentary campaign coverage was slanted toward pro-Putin forces and accused the government of pressuring news media, to limit opposition views.


Sunday the 15th of February, crazywriterinla noted:


they are Iraq with more advanced technology. And the bomb. We need to keep a missle aimed towards them now too.


Monday the 16th of February, rafuzo noted:


Meh. That's hardly "lamenting" the loss of the Soviet Union. Judging simply by the text of his remarks, he's right: the end of the Soviet Union had few benefits and lots of hardships for ordinary people. The nation's political and economic climate has liberalized very little in the dozen or so years since; one kleptocracy (the Party) has been replaced by another (the mob).

This is a good example of how bad journalism can imply meaning where there is none. Nowhere does Putin say "...and thus we must return to communism", but that's the implied sentiment. It's like saying "the end of the Nazi party in Germany (aka WWII) was a national tragedy" means you're a Nazi.


Monday the 16th of February, Abe Froman noted:


Saying you miss the Nazis, at the very least makes you a Nazi simpathisor, or a fan of knee boots.

I think keeping an eye on Putin's nationalistic retoric is a good idea. It was only 70 years ago where a down economy gave rise to nationalism in every major world power including our own hence leading to WW2.

Presently, one would hope that Putin misses the national pride, the industrial strength, and USSR's role as world power of the old. However if Putin misses the mother land's ability to intimidate through military threat, her control of the region, or her iron grasp on her people then this is a legitimate concern.

Economically speaking, Putin could be on to something. In order for them to put together an economic plan for the future it may be benifical to look at what the USSR did well, "economically." Politically they need to stay with the new democratic model.

(saving the world's problems one post at a time)


Monday the 16th of February, rafuzo noted:


yeah, but saying WW2 shouldn't have happened because it would spark a national tragedy (or worse, since we were a bunch of "jingoistic conquerors", we shouldn't have liberated western Europe) would mean some human furnaces might still be running today.

Remember that the Nazis anti-semitic platforms were no surprise when they first started gathering steam in the late 20's. By then, people were dying under the Weimar republic's crushing inflation and war debt, and most people were still feeling Kaiser Wilhelm's notion that Germany was being persecuted. Most people do indeed just want a job and the ability to take care of their families. That the commies did this not much better than the current regime is a reason why the Communist party is still its most viable (outside of expressly communist states) in Russia.


Tuesday the 17th of February, Lefty McLeft noted:


Former KGB are running Russia, former CIA are running USA, Iraq, and Afganastan ... I'm moving to Sealand for some privacy.